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28 January 2008 @ 09:47
 
mtgat talks about Mary and Me at FireFox News this week.

Continuing on that theme, the Voyager, Buffy, and Smallville litmus tests I wrote were mainly about identifying traits, explaining why they are significant markers and deadly when used in combination, and then offering suggestions on how to mitigate them (or eliminate them all together).

But the idea at the core of Missy's original Mary Sue Litmus test, and my versions was pretty much the same: it's the quantity of traits in combination that are really the defining factor, more than individual traits themselves.

Yet I still get emails of people arguing the validity of single traits as markers, rather than looking at the big picture--that if she's the captain's secret lovechild and psychic and has violet eyes and is charmingly clumsy and has a tragic past complete with ghosts that haunt her of her entire village/ship/squadron who were slaughtered before her eyes and has a beautiful singing voice and is a fantastic uber-spy who kicks ass in 5 inch heels and brightly coloured wigs, you have a problem. Whereas any single one of those might work just fine on their own, it's being presented in combination that screams "Sue".
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deirdretarentum on 28th January 2008 16:18 (UTC)
Monday
Hey hoe,

How many times a day do you get on here. Ta I gave Mom the Kevin Smith book, he is a huge Bruce Willis fan! love you
ljc: kimber/stormertaraljc on 28th January 2008 16:20 (UTC)
Re: Monday
hello my sister! Erm... I dunno... once a day? ish? Not every day. But sometimes more than once a day.

I glad you liked it! Hurrah! I was nervous, when I bought it, cos I wanted you to like your pressie. PRESSIES ARE IMPORTANT.

Bruce Willis = AWESOME. Even in the vaguely crap Robert Rodriguez zombie flick.

Edited at 2008-01-28 16:25 (UTC)
Merlin Missy: Drama queenmtgat on 28th January 2008 18:41 (UTC)
But the idea at the core of Missy's original Mary Sue Litmus test, and my versions was pretty much the same: it's the quantity of traits in combination that are really the defining factor, more than individual traits themselves.

Amen. Although I swear once you've hit the violet eyes, it's all over but for the post at marysues.
HawkMoth: monkeyhawkmoth on 29th January 2008 00:24 (UTC)
Oh, great. Now I'll have to rack my brains (or go digging in the ancient zine archive) to remember the name of the original violet-eyed TrekSue...what's-her-name from Diamonds and Rust. (See, I can remember the series...and the wonderful parody Rhinestones and Mush.)

ETA: Go Google for having "Boldly Writing" on line, so I could track down a specific issue of Warped Space. Oh my, I'd forgotten D & R was a Joan Baez song! And that the stories appeared in several different zines.

The name? Wait for it...Chantal Caberfae. I kid you not.

Edited at 2008-01-29 00:51 (UTC)